Night 2 Discussion

They told us before targets are not notified of being manipulated. Read admin posts/faq/role card/mechanics/order of operations/day posts. Lol just do as I ask please.

When we find a detective for sure we need to make shaded visit him and then kill him at night/get him lynched.

Worst case scenario I claim vigilante and you claim doctor. Shaded can visit me so we can work to get him lynched and gain trust. My vigilante claim would hold up well too.

It's all about will I be checked tonight and do I want myself locked into a very difficult detective claim (need to know clem's night 2 target + a night 1 check). I don't think any of us were checked on night 1 but I'm sure some of us will be checked tonight. If I do claim detective then I'm going to have to say clem took no action and hope I'm right.

I don't think the benefit of doing it outweighs the risk tbh. We need to think of what we gain from doing things like the manipulation + death note and whether it's worth the risk. If we're both checked visiting clem then that's half our team gone. The only way for there not to be a kill tomorrow is if there's a successful heal or we hit a survivor that is unlikely to exist and both can say they weren't shot. There's no sk so you'll have to explain the double kill the next night by using a vigi death note (all vigis should leave coded death notes) which could help if you were checked on night 3 but not any other nights but the chance of that is small + even then people could still work it out and say it's obviously a time manipulation trick and get you lynched.

tl:dr almost no gain, high risk

I thought the Admin said they were notified yesterday but I must have read it wrong. We shouldn't be trying to get Shaded killed. The actress is a nice bonus if he is killed but people can still work out stuff like that.

Brendan wrote:Worst case scenario I claim vigilante and you claim doctor. Shaded can visit me so we can work to get him lynched and gain trust. My vigilante claim would hold up well too.

I get counterclaimed, we both get lynched.

Kromos wrote:

Brendan wrote:Worst case scenario I claim vigilante and you claim doctor. Shaded can visit me so we can work to get him lynched and gain trust. My vigilante claim would hold up well too.

I get counterclaimed, we both get lynched.

Town wouldn't risk it plus you'd have 4 votes on your claim. We'd know who the real doctor is so he'd die+town can only lynch one person each day...

You're being silly. There are a million ways to explain why there was no kill and I think someone will die because of the vigilantes and truth seekers.

Brendan wrote:

Kromos wrote:

Brendan wrote:Worst case scenario I claim vigilante and you claim doctor. Shaded can visit me so we can work to get him lynched and gain trust. My vigilante claim would hold up well too.

I get counterclaimed, we both get lynched.

Town wouldn't risk it plus you'd have 4 votes on your claim. We'd know who the real doctor is so he'd die+town can only lynch one person each day...

They've got vigis.

What will we gain from me time manipulating clementine?

If you leave the death note you have atm you won't be able to claim vigi if you're checked btw.

Brendan wrote:You're being silly. There are a million ways to explain why there was no kill and I think someone will die because of the vigilantes and truth seekers.

No, we don't have escorts or any immune roles other than the survivor. The only likely cause of no kills is a doctor heal and he will know we've used the time manipulator to create a double kill on night 3. So once he knows how there is a double kill what is the point of it when it also makes me susceptible to being checked and lynched as well?

I'm adamant that I should skip my action so please don't change my action, Crimson. Hopefully tomorrow will be as uneventful as yesterday.

You forget about the truth seekers and vigilantes. Crimson, as an expert scum player, I encourage you to change his action. Stop being such a pussy.

Forget about my deathnote btw although I could still claim vig. We could've both attacked him, no coroner.

How would the town know the mafia killed two people the fucking coroner is dead.

Right now I have your actions as:
Crimson: No Action
Kromos: Skip Action
Shaded: No Action --> Disguise as Deathfire123(replaced Cryptonic)
Brendan: Kill Claimingtime, no death note